Micro Interviews

Joanne Morgan


“I love when I see people come home to themselves. In that process they access their own wisdom, rather than somebody or something telling them. They actually find that within themselves and they learn to rely on themselves and trust their own wisdom implicitly. I love that. Most of all. And that is for everything. Not just for some things. Like their own healing, their own knowing of themselves.”

“What most inspires me when I listen to people that they speak from their heart knowing – like the embodied wisdom of something. Not just a theory of it. Like you can tell that they lived that, they know that. It’s almost like the essence of them resonates with oh my gosh ‘yes’.”


“My best wellness learning has been doing my own person work. And in doing that I learned to listen to my body, fostering that mind/body connection. I listen to what it needs me to know that I don’t yet know. Allowing everything in me. All the emotions. Whether it’s peace, joy which come easy or parts of me that are frustrated or in pain. I’ve learned to accommodate all of those equally so I don’t have to get rid of them. I need to understand what they are doing there and what’s behind them in order for me to access the truth of what I need to know. And that’s probably the most valuable thing for myself that I have learned and that I impart with other people.”


“We’ve all grown up with different messaging. For some people they might have been allowed to, let’s say honour their anger or use their voice. For others that weren’t allowed to do that, they wouldn’t know what else do to with those emotions but get rid of them. Maybe it wasn’t acceptable at that time. So they have to unlearn that. They have to learn to hear those parts of them that are valid and have great wisdom. Or that part of them that may not be honoured by them or people around them. And then to give themselves permission to actually access that.”


“I take a big deep breath. Then I go inside and ground myself. I literally do a grounding exercise so that I am at home. So I can check inside out. And that normally is my fastest route in knowing how I am doing emotionally, physically, mentally and spiritually. All in that one moment.”


“The mind could never come up with something like what comes from our body wisdom. It’s incredible. When it comes from the body and the mind sees it it’s like Oh – that’s what it is. And it’s very quick. Our beautiful mind can’t work out questions like What’s wrong with me? There is nothing wrong with you, so it doesn’t know how to answer that question. What it needs is it needs attention and then it can align. It doesn’t need us to work out how to align it. It can do that itself.”



“A beautiful tool that I love and I invite other people to use as well, for every time we say What’s wrong with us or what’s wrong with me is to say What’s right with us or what’s right with me in the middle of it all. Because often we forget what’s right with us when we are dealing with something that’s really challenging and difficult. So you might say: What’s right with me? I am here dealing with this, and it’s actually very challenging to me so I am going to acknowledge that it’s really hard. There is a part of me that feels really challenged and it’s very difficult. So I am going to acknowledge that and then I am going to attend to it. Find that strength. It’s like two people in a hole, who can help the other out? So the observer self can say that part of me is in a real hole. What is the part that has the tools to help it out? Does it need a rope? Does it need to be lifted out? What sort of support does it need? Then it can tell me how it needs to come out of the hole without getting hurt more.


“I’ve lived and worked in different cultures and went into very challenged areas. I saw people’s different ways of being and living; what was meaningful for them. I spent 13 years living in Peru in the 80s and 90s – and that was a really powerful experience. I lived closely with the people of the Andes in these little tiny huts. They really knew the essence of themselves. They could celebrate and be joyful and then be sad. This is where I learned to be grateful for those qualities rather than collect a whole lot of stuff. The other thing that struck me is their connection to the land and the shamanistic approach to the oneness of everything.”


“My life has hard moments in it for sure. Some of my life experiences were more tough than others, like living in Peru and seeing that suffering and seeing people so ill. Those times I found very challenging. Way up in the Andes we often had the burial services. And that was tough because I had to find what is there was to say in the light of death. I found those moments very hard to find words for. I had my broken Spanish at that point and learning a whole new language I suppose taught me the power of what we say and the meaning behind the words. It’s important to choose them wisely. Especially when I am speaking to someone who has lost a loved one. Would I want those words spoken to me?”

“When there was a death in the mountains the bodies had to be buried within 24 hours. It was stark and we didn’t have a lot of time. You had to be very wealthy to embalm a body. I saw babies die that I knew wouldn’t be dying if they were living somewhere else. Seeing young women and men dying because they were miles away from medical care. I found that really hard. Most of the time those were treatable things but they didn’t have access to travel down the mountain or money to get places. There was a resident doctor that would come every now and then. There were a lot of things like that they had to deal with – whether they wanted to or not.”

joanne_morgan“I’ve always wanted to be of service to other people. I knew I didn’t want to get married and have a family so I joined an international congregation of nuns. For 33 years I lived in different parts of the world. In 2005 I had a sense I needed to do something different. It was similar from what I had been doing and I just felt my spirit needed a different expression. I was very grateful for the 33 years but at 52 years old I needed to make another choice. It wasn’t easy to do. I had to trust as I stepped out of that because it’s like I was starting my life all over again in a different way. I had what I call my tsunami experience, where I felt even if I wanted to stay I couldn’t. I began teaching at the Transformational Arts College and am in private practice as a psychotherapist.”


“Being a therapist is interesting because it’s just different. It’s just a bigger expression of who I am, what I need to do and how I need to do it. It’s not within any one structure. It can be what I need it to be. Wherever people are, their spirit is. It doesn’t matter what path they travel. It doesn’t have to be attached to anything in particular. It’s just what’s meaningful to their heart and their knowing.”

“In those 33 years I visited many different cultures. Apart from Latin America, we were in Senegal, Philippines, New Zealand, India, Bangladesh, Samoa, France and England. So it was a very international scene. And I’ve always felt that’s a part of my journey, coming out of New Zealand and living in different places overseas. I came to Toronto in 2002 and I’ve been here ever since.”


“If I go to a workshop I don’t always like to hear just the theory. Theory is easy. I want to know how do you do that in life 24/7. When you are challenged, how do you get up everyday and do that thing. So then when I hear that, I can incorporate it in my life. For example years ago I heard someone talk about finding the spark in us. That thing that keeps us going. And when that spark goes out, it makes it hard to function. So what is that quickest route to reigniting that so that we can engage again? What makes your heart sing? What do you love? Getting people back to what they love and how can that move them now in this circumstance is what matters most.”


“I loved reading Man’s Search for Meaning. That book had a big impact on me. That resilience of the human spirit in the most dire situation in the camps in the Second World War, and how he talks in that book about a bird on a fence, or the beauty of the dawn. The simple things that helped him somehow get through that experience. That has such a profound impact – how we can choose in circumstances where generally one would think we don’t have choice. Nobody can rob our minds or our heart of what we choose to do with it.”

“Our essence can then help us with what we are going through. If we are in grief or if we are depressed, it’s not wrong. It’s just that it needs some movement. Some nurturing of what we love towards this part that maybe has forgotten. It might be found in a conversation or a question. It’s effortless. When we can access that, with a lot of efforts required in another area, that can often help rebalance. I am not saying it takes it away but it can help nurture and root that connection. Because going back to what I love helps me notice and helps me come home to our spirit, which needs nurturing and we can forget that.”


joanne_morgan“I love retreats. Creating experiences for people where they can refuel or realign out of the everyday and come home to themselves. Somehow re-nurturing themselves – that’s a big piece for me that I am intending to do more of. Whether it’s a day or a weekend just to be away from our phones and our on-demand life. I can just sort of disconnect from that and reconnect more with myself or with a group that’s there for the same purpose. I find those to be really powerful pockets of time for people. I really valued from my 33 years having an annual retreat for 8 days where we were quiet with ourselves. Those were powerful connection points for who I am in relation to spirit and where I was being invited to grow or change and to be the best version of myself.”

“Self care. It’s not just about caring for everybody else in your life it’s also about your own self care. It’s something you can gift yourself. Time for being. Being without a whole lot of doing. To go within. Get a sense of how you are here. It doesn’t need to be 8 days, just time away. Even if it’s half a day. A lot of people don’t have that because of business of life. If they can gift themselves with something like that, it is really a beautiful thing. Our relationship with ourselves it the most important one we have on the planet. 24/7 for the rest of our lives. It’s a good plan to check in and gift ourselves that time.”


Connect with Joanne Morgan here: spiritexpres-sing.com

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